depressingly, minc fails to make. ld: Undefined symbols: _minc_call_depth _minc_trash_var _minc_callers_ncopts _minc_routine_name make[2]: *** [voxeltoworld] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 ...anyone know where these are supposed to come from? or is it hair-rippin' time again? :) thanks, --vicka