[Loris-dev] CentOS 8 and Loris
Dave MacFarlane
dave.macfarlane at mcin.ca
Mon Jan 18 10:52:13 EST 2021
Hi Julie,
At what point are you getting the php-fpm error? I just tried going through
the documentation that Eli linked on a cleanly installed CentOS 7 VM and
while it is odd that it's installing php-fpm and then telling you to use a
config file made mod_php, when I followed the documentation it seemed to
work. (I got as far as accessing http://localhost/installdb.php then
couldn't go further because I don't have a web browser on the VM I was
using to test, but if there's a problem with the php configuration I don't
think that page should load either and I accessed it with curl to verify.
Note that when install.sh asked me if I wanted to set up the config files
automatically I said 'n' in my test since it was set up manually in the
section above of the documentation..)
- Dave
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 6:42 PM Julie Ashworth, HWNI Computing Support <
support-cirl at berkeley.edu> wrote:
> Thanks Eli,
> That is the doc I used which produced the php-fpm error.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:05 PM Eli Johnson <joh17964 at umn.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Julie,
>>
>> I'm not on the LORIS team, but I referenced this CentOS 7 documentation
>> while installing on RHEL 7 last year --
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/aces/Loris/tree/main/docs/wiki/00_SERVER_INSTALL_AND_CONFIGURATION/01_LORIS_Install/CentOS
>>
>> Most of the documentation can be found in the docs directory within the
>> LORIS project on github.
>>
>> @LORIS team, the links for CENTOS documentation in the github wiki are
>> broken.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Eli Johnson
>>
>> Eli Johnson
>> Developer/Data Manager
>> Institute of Child Development
>> University of Minnesota
>> joh17964 at umn.edu
>>
>>
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Julie Ashworth, HWNI Computing Support" <
>>> support-cirl at berkeley.edu>
>>> To: Dave MacFarlane <dave.macfarlane at mcin.ca>
>>> Cc: loris-dev <loris-dev at bic.mni.mcgill.ca>, Samir Das <
>>> samirdas99 at gmail.com>, Christine Rogers <rogers at bic.mni.mcgill.ca>
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:24:57 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [Loris-dev] CentOS 8 and Loris
>>> Can you please send me the URL for the most recent linux (ubuntu or
>>> centos) installation documentation?
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 1:17 PM Julie Ashworth, HWNI Computing Support <
>>> support-cirl at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Dave,
>>>> There are many groups taking over development of Centos8, so I thinks
>>>> it's incorrect to say that it's discontinued. The most active group is
>>>> Rocky linux, started by Greg Kurtzer, who also founded the original CentOS
>>>> project 15 years ago.
>>>> https://rockylinux.org/
>>>>
>>>> I have no personal interest in using php-fpm. I was following the
>>>> centos7 instructions to install php-fpm, but there was an apache error
>>>> expecting mod_php. I'm happy to install mod_php but that is not
>>>> documnted in the centos7 instructions.
>>>> To be honest, I'm really disappointed in the loris documentation and
>>>> that my emails aren't being read carefully.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 12:22 PM Dave MacFarlane <dave.macfarlane at mcin.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>> CentOS is no longer supported (by which I mean the operating system
>>>>> itself has been discontinued, not the LORIS support for it.) The MCIN
>>>>> production servers currently run on CentOS7 which is why the installation
>>>>> procedure is well documented/tested for that system, but given the
>>>>> discontinuation of CentOS the plan is to move our production servers off of
>>>>> CentOS entirely. It's worth noting that CentOS 8 EOL is 2021, while CentOS
>>>>> 7 EOL is 2024. This is the reason why our documentation is tailored to V7.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't have much experience running LORIS under php-fpm, which is
>>>>> why there's no documentation for that environment. At one point years ago I
>>>>> had written a configuration file in order to use it in Travis CI, but since
>>>>> then testing/development has moved towards using Docker and the built-in
>>>>> PHP web server (I just looked at that configuration file and it's so old it
>>>>> refers to php5..). mod_php is currently the only supported/documented PHP
>>>>> environment as it's all most of the LORIS developers have experience with
>>>>> (though I also regularly develop with the php built in dev server, so I'm
>>>>> confident that that works as well.)
>>>>>
>>>>> The good news is our dependency on apache/mod_php is much weaker than
>>>>> it was when I had worked on it years ago, but the bad news is there's no
>>>>> written documentation that I'm aware of.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're willing to do the work of debugging the environment we can
>>>>> help where we can, but if you're trying to get a system up and quickly it's
>>>>> likely faster and easier to use something that we have more experience
>>>>> with. For reference, I don't think the php_value setting you're trying to
>>>>> set should be required anywhere by LORIS. LORIS uses an autoloader for
>>>>> class/include resolution and shouldn't depend on the PHP include_path. If
>>>>> you're set on php-fpm you can look at docs/config/apache2-fastcgi as a
>>>>> starting point, but note that that configuration is from 2014 (which as far
>>>>> as I know is the last time anyone tried to use LORIS in that environment.)
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. (Forgive me if I'm slow to respond to any emails as I'm on
>>>>> vacation until next week..)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:39 PM Julie Ashworth, HWNI Computing
>>>>> Support <support-cirl at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> In the last 4 emails I have simply asked for current linux
>>>>>> documentation, not centos8 documentation (preferably that mentions php-fpm
>>>>>> configuration). Is that available?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 8:59 AM Samir Das <samirdas99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll do our best to help you with this configuration. :) We'll send
>>>>>>> you any documentation we have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding CentOS, since RedHat has discontinued its support, we are
>>>>>>> planning on putting our testing resources elsewhere. We have yet to discuss
>>>>>>> CentOS-Stream, which we will do next week. But I wouldn't worry too much...
>>>>>>> we'll help as much as we can given that you have already installed it, etc.
>>>>>>> If the problems become too tedious, then we can figure out options together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samir Das
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:52 PM Julie Ashworth, HWNI Computing
>>>>>>> Support <support-cirl at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi Shen,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12-01-2021 11.40 -0500, Shen Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> > So Loris team will not support Centos. We will only
>>>>>>>> support Ubuntu in the future.Â
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's interesting that CentOS will no longer be supported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since you previously mentioned that CentOS8 should work, I already
>>>>>>>> started the installation, and I'd like to see if it works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, please, please...
>>>>>>>> will you please send me a link to the most recent instruction for
>>>>>>>> loris installation that includes the php_value in /etc/php-fpm.d?
>>>>>>>> As I said, I can modify ubuntu instructions. I don't need
>>>>>>>> instructions specific to CentOS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12-01-2021 11.40 -0500, Shen Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>> > We are holding the Loris meeting to discuss whether to support
>>>>>>>> centos in
>>>>>>>> > the future.Â
>>>>>>>> > Loris's sub-modules have issues with the Centos system. So
>>>>>>>> Loris team will
>>>>>>>> > not support Centos.
>>>>>>>> > We will only support Ubuntu in the future.Â
>>>>>>>> > BestÂ
>>>>>>>> > Shen
>>>>>>>> > On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 11:27, Julie Ashworth, HWNI Computing
>>>>>>>> Support
>>>>>>>> > <[1]support-cirl at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > hi Shen,
>>>>>>>> > I'm looking for documentation of the (useful!) instruction
>>>>>>>> you provided
>>>>>>>> > in your previous email:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >  step 2 : add "php_value[include_path] =
>>>>>>>> > >  ....." into /etc/php-fpm.d/loris.conf
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I would appreciate a link to that documentation, because I
>>>>>>>> think it
>>>>>>>> > would be valuable for the future. I can adapt Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> documentation for
>>>>>>>> > CentOS.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > thanks,
>>>>>>>> > Julie
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On 12-01-2021 09.14 -0500, Shen Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â The Loris Team only supports Centos7 currently.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â We don't have Centos8 instructions yet, so you can't
>>>>>>>> find it.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â If you and Ioannis would like to install loris 23 on
>>>>>>>> centos 8, you
>>>>>>>> > can
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â try.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â I have installed loris 23 on centos 8, although the
>>>>>>>> process is not
>>>>>>>> > simple.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â That is why I mentioned Centos 8, not officially
>>>>>>>> supported yet.
>>>>>>>> > Sorry for
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â confusion.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â best
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Shen
>>>>>>>> > >  [1]å± å¹•å¿«ç § 2021-01-11 Àş‹å
>>>>>>>> ˆ8.04.56.png
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 16:27, Julie Ashworth, HWNI
>>>>>>>> Computing
>>>>>>>> > Support
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â <[2][2]support-cirl at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â Thanks Shen,
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â Is this documented anywhere? I checked the Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>> > and the
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â install.sh file, but I don't see it mentioned.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â You also mentioned to Ioannis that Loris should
>>>>>>>> run find on
>>>>>>>> > CentOS8.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â Which version did you recommend for CentOS8?
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â best,
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â Julie
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â On 11-01-2021 16.04 -0500, Shen Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >   >  Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>> > >   >  We do not support Loris 23.0.2 to run
>>>>>>>> on CentOS 8.
>>>>>>>> > >   >  You can install 23.0.2 on Centos 7.
>>>>>>>> > >   >  If you want to try to install it on
>>>>>>>> Centos8. There is no
>>>>>>>> > guarantee
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â that it
>>>>>>>> > >   >  will work on Centos 8.
>>>>>>>> > >   >  You can try it.
>>>>>>>> > >   >  step 1 : remove the line of php_value
>>>>>>>> from loris.conf
>>>>>>>> > >   >  step 2 : add
>>>>>>>> "php_value[include_path] =
>>>>>>>> > >   > ÂÂ
>>>>>>>> ....." into /etc/php-fpm.d/loris.conf
>>>>>>>> > >   >  step 3: reload php-fpm and httpd.
>>>>>>>> > >   >  Good Luck!
>>>>>>>> > >   >  BestÂÂ
>>>>>>>> > >   >  Shen
>>>>>>>> > >   >  On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 15:32, Julie
>>>>>>>> Ashworth, HWNI
>>>>>>>> > Computing
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â Support
>>>>>>>> > >   >  <[1][3][3]support-cirl at berkeley.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   hi Shen,
>>>>>>>> > >   >   that *is* how I installed
>>>>>>>> apache/php7.4.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   Please reread my email.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   I'd like to know how y'all
>>>>>>>> recommend adding the php
>>>>>>>> > path for
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â loris
>>>>>>>> > >   >   libraries using php-fpm.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   If I use the apache configuration
>>>>>>>> file provided:
>>>>>>>> > >   >       php_value
>>>>>>>> include_path
>>>>>>>> > >   >  ÂÂ
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> .:/usr/share/php:/var/www/loris/project/libraries:/var/www/loris/php/libraries
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   I get an error:
>>>>>>>> > >   >   Invalid command 'php_value',
>>>>>>>> perhaps misspelled or
>>>>>>>> > defined by a
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â module
>>>>>>>> > >   >   not included in the server
>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   ... because this isn't supported
>>>>>>>> with php-fpm
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   best,
>>>>>>>> > >   >   Julie
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   On 11-01-2021 10.08 -0500, Shen
>>>>>>>> Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  I recommend
>>>>>>>> reinstalling php 7.4 and apache.
>>>>>>>> > >   >   > ÂÂ
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â [1][2][4][4]
>>>>>>>> https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > this
>>>>>>>> > >   >   article is
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  helpful.
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  Best
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  Shen
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   > References
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  Visible links
>>>>>>>> > >   >   >  1.
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â [3][5][5]
>>>>>>>> https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >   >   ---end quoted text---
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >  --
>>>>>>>> > >   >  Shen Wang
>>>>>>>> > >   >  [4]Loris Developer
>>>>>>>> > >   >  Montreal Neurological InstituteÂÂ
>>>>>>>> > >   >  McGill University
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â > References
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â >
>>>>>>>> > >   >  Visible links
>>>>>>>> > >   >  1. mailto:[6][6]
>>>>>>>> support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > >   >  2.
>>>>>>>> > [7][7]https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >   >  3.
>>>>>>>> > [8][8]https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >   >  4. [9][9]https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Â ---end quoted text---
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â --
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Shen Wang
>>>>>>>> > >  [10]Loris Developer
>>>>>>>> > >  Montreal Neurological InstituteÂÂ
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â McGill University
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > References
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â Visible links
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 2. mailto:[10]support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 3. mailto:[11]support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 4. [12]
>>>>>>>> https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 5. [13]
>>>>>>>> https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 6. mailto:[14]support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 7. [15]
>>>>>>>> https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 8. [16]
>>>>>>>> https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 9. [17]https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> > >Â Â 10. [18]https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > ---end quoted text---
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Shen Wang
>>>>>>>> > [19]Loris Developer
>>>>>>>> > Montreal Neurological InstituteÂ
>>>>>>>> > McGill University
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > References
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Visible links
>>>>>>>> > 1. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 2. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 3. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 4. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 5. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 6. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 7. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 8. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 9. https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> > 10. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 11. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 12. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 13. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 14. mailto:support-cirl at berkeley.edu
>>>>>>>> > 15. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 16. https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-php-fpm-centos-8/
>>>>>>>> > 17. https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> > 18. https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> > 19. https://github.com/aces/Loris
>>>>>>>> ---end quoted text---
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